MSC on Jul 16, 2008 at 10:21 PM:

Another Neo-Con who wishes to preserve his first amendment rights, by eliminating someone else's. Although I do believe that the student org (sorry I cannot remember the name.. Muslim Student Union??) was pretty direct, I also have to give them mad props for standing up to a figure such as David Horowitz. Mr. Horowitz, you're not in Washington anymore. People do not get tasered, or arrested, or even thrown out just for voicing their opinions. This is Wisconsin. We like our Packers, our Dairy, but most importantly, our constitutional freedoms!

Pundit on Jul 19, 2008 at 03:02 AM:

Horowitz, like any good political speaker, is merely pursuing any potential avenues for further exposure / ways he can make an example out of the opposition. There's nothing wrong with what Horowitz is doing. I'll definitely be looking up information on the ultimate findings in the investigation, especially the rationale used by all sides (including university administration and the DA).

Tyler Kristopeit on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:57 AM:

Mr. Horowitz has no desire to eliminate another individual's right to free speech, MSC (believe me, we've chatted about it - he's completely straightforward on this point). This case, rather, is about Mr. Horowitz's right to free speech. Nothing prevented the leftist groups who protested the event from holding an event of their own (had they not been allowed, that would have been a violation). These leftist groups, however, have no right to hijack a legal event being hosted and paid for by a student organization (in this case, the Conservative Union). The protesting actions inside the theater (there was a protest area in the hall) were an illegal protest under federal and state laws, and Ch. 18 of the UW System Code that took place inside a reserved (non-public) area of the Union.

This case is especially concerning because Liberal/Left groups are allowed to have events all the time without illegal interruptions. However, when one of the minority Conservative groups decides to invite a speaker, there are dozens of people who raise a ruckus (even with the massive security force that has to be present). Don't you think this is slightly ridiculous for a supposedly academic environment???

Katie Jesse on Jul 29, 2008 at 06:46 PM:

I would like to remind you Tyler that the large majority of people who were protesting within the Wisconsin Lounge at the time of the event were Muslims and most of them part of the Muslim Student Association. I only say this because you used the term "leftist" several times and I think it's being improperly used.

As far as the rule about where you can protest, I think it's slightly ridiculous. People are allowed to voice their opinions outside of the arena but as soon as they respond directly to things being said, as they are being said, it's against the rules? Where do you draw the line? Was my questioning of Bay Buchanon's "Failures of Feminism" "illegal interruption"? What about the people who came to protest Norm Finklestein? You seem to think it doesn't happen to the other side but it did then.

At all points in the political debate I think we need people questioning the status quo. The minute we limit that ability is the minute we loose what it is to be American.

Tyler Kristopeit on Aug 09, 2008 at 01:42 AM:

Katie, I'll grant you that my use of the word leftist was, in all likelihood, improper. I might add, however, if I were to note the religious background that was predominant among many protesters there, as a Conservative, I would be dismissed as an Islamophobe by those of you on the left. Ahh, the joys of the prevalent double standard that exists in all areas of debate with regard to social issues.

With regard to your question at our Bay Buchanan event - I'd like to say it straight out: I appreciated your question and presence at the event. While you and Bay were clearly at odds in your opinion, I respected you for attending and asking a well though-out question. This is something I cannot say about those who disrupted the Horowitz event. My problem doesn't lie with those who have different opinions, but, rather, with those who stop our events and disturb our guests with illegal protests. If they could come with an intelligent question, one worthy of their UWM education, I have absolutely no problem with their presence.

I don't know what happened at the Finklestein event, nor do I know of anyone on "my side" who attending the event. I will openly apologize, however, if any Conservative disrupted the event (something that Conservatives rarely do... have you noticed?). Humbly apologizing is something I don't see anyone on the left or in the MSA doing for the countless disruptions at our events...

I agree that it is our duty to question the status quo. That's exactly why David Horowitz came - as a proud American. I don't want to limit speech - I just want my rights to free speech to be respected and protected, as the constitution provides.

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